Update by user Mar 17, 2013
Well "Stay Away From ACN!!!" I can easily say that almost everything you have said is BS in regards to - ACNIBO.Blogspot - As I have answered EVERY SINGLE THING you claim I haven't. You have not disputed ANYTHING from - ACNIBO.Blogspot - honestly.
If all you say is true, you would be telling people to go there to prove your point. However you only LIE to try and keep people from going there and seeing for themselves. If anyone wants to fall for that, more power to you, if not just browse through - ACNIBO.Blogspot - for a few minutes and you will see that "Stay Away From ACN!!!" is completely dishonest with anything he has to say about - ACNIBO.Blogspot - I am not disputing some of what he says about ACN and it's reps as I have already stated many times that I believe some of it is true, however I do not do ANY OF THOSE THINGS. I only speak for myself.
I have PURPOSEFULLY disclosed EVERY DETAIL I can on ACN and make a point to make it as public as possible. I do not believe in deception or pressure tactics AT ALL. This is easily proven to anyone who goes to - ACNIBO.Blogspot - I CLEARLY state EVERYTHING in detail. I CLEARLY do not pressure, mislead, deceive or lie to anyone and challenge anybody to show otherwise.
I have received countless emails from many thanking me for being so candid and honest with all that is expected and all I know of ACN. So "Stay Away From ACN!!!" You can keep trying all you want to LIE about me and you may even keep a few sheep in your flock to believe anything you say about - ACNIBO.Blogspot - But anyone who actually thinks for themselves can easily see, that you are dishonest about what is in there, so that should give them some idea of the rest of your rants.
I actually was having a legitimate debate with you, as I did not outright dismiss your claims, quite to the contrary I gave credibility to much of it, however since you intend on being dishonest with what I present, then I no linger have any respect for any of your opinions.
UN ANONYMOUS - R. Michael Gonzalez ACN IBO#02637585 - Just visit - ACNIBO.Blogspot and see for yourself
Original review posted by user Mar 03, 2013
First of all thank you for your comments, it’s seems that we should agree to disagree about most, but I think we agree on some points. I would like to start by saying their is no veiled attempt by me at anything, I have quite clearly stated that I’m an ACN IBO and even placed my name and IBO# at the bottom for all to see, I have showed a link to my blog which I am trying to lay the facts out for anyone who wishes to view it and welcome any comments anyone want to leave there, I will not censor anything, (And if you look at it you will see I’m not brainwashed by anyone and I think for myself).
I clearly post what I know as honestly as possible. I want anyone who even thinks about trying this business to understand exactly what they are to expect BEFORE signing up. I have a post explaining all the costs, I have a post explaining Typical IBO profits $0, I explain it will take years of hard work for this business to show any real income potential and even then there is no guarantee (it takes many skills that many if not most do not posses and takes alot of training and learning curve to gain). I do understand that there are many unscrupulous people in the MLM industry as a whole and they are giving it a bad name.
MLM isn’t bad, ACN isn't bad, just some of the reps recruiting practices.Try to help me understand are you against the MLM concept, in general (if so that’s fine) we do live in a wonderful country of freedom of speech and the MLM business is not for everyone. I also have the right to speak my mind and if you didn’t know when you hit submit complaint in Pissed Consumer it asks you to choose between 3 choices 1. “I’m Pissed”, 2. “Neutral” and 3.
“I’m Pleased” so this site even though by it’s name doesn’t promote people that approve of something, they are open and honest enough to allow a fair commentary to take place.Also I’m not trying to flood anything, I only posted 1 comment to each post, I basically copied and pasted the bulk of each response and added comment to each particular complaint (And once again my name is on everyone, not trying to hide who I am, like most who just post anonymous complaints), but they are basically all the same, so my response is basically the same. As for the Attorneys General who work for the company, please find me an example of any large company that deals with 100’s of 1000’s of consumers that does not have a staff of lawyers, good luck, ACN has around 270 complaints with the Better Business Bureau and has an “A” rating with them, based on the size of the business vs the # of complaints and their attempt to resolve them. For an example AT&T has 22,467 complaints in the same time period and has a “B” rating, these are FACTS, not opinions. Are you trying to tell me that ACN has influence with the BBB or better lawyers than AT&T.As for the misleading sales reps, I do agree with you that this does take place, but that is not the fault of ACN.
They clearly state in their IBO agreement what is expected of their reps as far as ethical practices and IBO’s are independent contractors not employees, so it is quite difficult for them to watchdog 100,000 reps worldwide. The only way they can know of anything their reps are doing is by people contacting them directly and when they are contacted they DO look into it and in many cases the complaints are resolved and the IBO reprimanded or let go. Most of the complaints FLOODING the internet are by people that the company feel were not mislead or ripped off and therefore they are venting their frustration.Also, please show me an example of a large company that earns its money from the sale of a product or service that does not promote their product as the best, that’s just sales, REALLY!, this is the weakest complaint of all of them. If you don’t like a product don’t buy it and if you don’t like a business don’t work in it.
The biggest problem in these complaints is that someone got involved in the sales industry that didn’t belong in it. Sales is a skill, some have it and most don’t. ACN offers a chance to see if you can learn these skills for very little money, I would happily pay $500 to go to a 1 day sales seminar if I thought it would help me gain a skill I didn’t have, many of those 1 day seminars are $1,000’s. As for family and friends, yes some reps push you to hassle your loved ones to buy, buy, buy.
This is a complete misuse of the concept (Once again not ACN’s or the MLM industries fault). The idea behind it is you will learn to sell quicker, by starting with those you feel most comfortable around and it will give you time to learn the products and have answers for the question. This is part of the MLM training model, for many it is really difficult to just start talking to people they aren’t close to. It’s just being abused by some.As for your comment on “Read The Fine Print” I don't know what youre talking about, the IBO agreement is online at the ACN corporate site, you can read it or print it anytime you want (there is never anything missing out of it, that’s a complete lie).
I was taught to never sign anything without reading the fine print and anyone who complains that I didn’t read it and feel they have been duped, well give me a break, that’s just common sense 101. Also why I’m writing my blog to try and explain these things in LARGE print to stop all these baseless arguments.Also for all these reps that are reportedly pushing people to sign before they know what's going on, I can’t possibly know how much of this is happening. There are over 100,000 reps in 23 countries. Once again, why I’m writing my blog, I explain as much as I can for anyone to see and read, I want any prospect to be well informed and ready if they choose to join, alot of what I say will probably make people decide not to join.
I can only speak for myself and my team and we don’t do this to ANYONE and my team is the fastest growing and performing team in the business, and that’s probably why. What point is there in recruiting someone who has no clue what they need to do, you can’t teach them everything before they start, but you can make sure they understand the business and what's expected of them. NO ONE and I mean NO ONE earns a $1 off a new rep that doesn't sell services, ALL of the bonuses are for CUSTOMER ACQUISITION, period. There is absolutely no gain for ANY IBO to recruit people who will fail.
I can’t say it is not happening, but I can say those reps won’t be in business long as they won’t make anything and as for high level people who promote this business as the second coming, if you made a quarter of a million dollars a month would you not think your business was the greatest invention of mankind. Yes the vast majority of people will fail at this, just like the vast majority of people fail at any business endeavor, that is why there are so many employees and so few business owners. But you can go and buy Lotto tickets and hope to be rich someday or you can be proactive and give something a shot and maybe, just maybe you’ll be one of the ones who just naturally excels at it. As for me I’m not worried about making any quick money at this, I don’t even care about the bonuses.
I work and do this part time (which again in my blog I explain is a necessity to start this business, It won't pay your bills for a long time). I also am focusing on many other avenues to market myself, not just following the script, any good leader will do this naturally, I’m open to learning their suggestions, but in the end will do things my way. Another reason for my blog is to show if my way works or not, either way, no bad feelings with the company. It’s only $500 and no one should do this if that $500 was their life saving or would take food out of their family’s mouth.
I once again, can only speak for myself and my team, but we don’t do that to anyone. In fact even though it’s frowned upon, if we truly believe in someones potential, who can’t afford it, we find the money for them, I’ve seen it happen.All I can say at the end of the day is I believe in MLM and I believe that ACN has a great business model. I can only speak of my own business practices and feel bad for those who were recruited by the wrong reps, I’m trying to do my best to keep that from happening, please just don’t judge all of us in the business by the actions of some.Oh and one more thing, I know several ACN reps that don’t recruit at all and only work at getting customers for themselves and are making good money, yes it takes incredible sales techniques and skills to do this in direct marketing, but it does happen, for most the best way is to build a team.http://acnibo.blogspot.com , thanks again for the article and commetary.
R. Michael Gonzalez - ACN IBO #02637585 - (Just copy and paste in search I’m easy to find)